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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 11:07:01 GMT -6
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Post by mike on Sept 7, 2018 11:41:56 GMT -6
Hijacking this for a minute @soup2345 - I just heard this the other day and havent done much to further look at it. I am not one to hear words of people who say they hear from God and jump! And I still look at this the same way but it is a bit (eerie...ok eerie isnt the right word but ...) he nailed it with Trump in 2007! The rest of what he's said may or may not happen etc. but is it only a coincidence that he got it right once?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 12:01:22 GMT -6
Good video mike. Thank you. So how could they just pull Trump from thin air? At that time trump was doing reality TV and not on the political scene, especially for the office of president.
In my mind, there are only a few possible explanations here...
A) they just got lucky. They threw enough stuff against the wall that eventually something stuck
B) they are practicing some form of soothsaying , divination,witch craft or some other tool of satan to deceive
C). They are actually hearing from the Lord and the words they speak are inspired.
I have my thoughts on it, it would love to hear what y’all think.
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Post by mike on Sept 7, 2018 12:23:54 GMT -6
Exactly Soup...this person had several other prophecies that never happened which always lesds me to my skepticism. Of other note...this man passed just a couple weeks after the election
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Post by kjs on Sept 10, 2018 8:13:12 GMT -6
Not to dash anyone's bubble about "current prophecies" .... BUT Trump has been itching to be President since the 1990's .....
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Post by fitz on Sept 10, 2018 8:25:03 GMT -6
Not to dash anyone's bubble about "current prophecies" .... BUT Trump has been itching to be President since the 1990's .....
I was going to say...Trump had been on my short list for possible presidential candidates for 20 years preceding 2016. Just sayin'. Not rocket science.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 9:45:03 GMT -6
typically the people on those lists are career politicians though. Not celebrities on TV shows.
I take it that you are of the belief that Taylor and Clement are not prophets? I don’t mean that negative at all, just value your opinions and would like to know what you think
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Post by fitz on Sept 10, 2018 12:17:47 GMT -6
Soup, I know very little about Kim Clement, and even less about Mark Taylor. Didn't mean to insinuate that either are false prophets. Just thinking a prediction re: Trump becoming President was an easy one. As always, the biblical test for these guys is simple...have their predictions come true? Like, all of them? That's how we would know.
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Post by socalexile on Sept 10, 2018 12:38:47 GMT -6
And what is their Gospel? Remember that there was a demon-possessed prophetess, so accurate predictions can be done by the enemy. The real test is what they say about salvation and Jesus.
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Post by kjs on Sept 10, 2018 13:03:14 GMT -6
typically the people on those lists are career politicians though. Not celebrities on TV shows. I take it that you are of the belief that Taylor and Clement are not prophets? I don’t mean that negative at all, just value your opinions and would like to know what you think Hi Soup2345
Actually, I take anyone's "today prophecies" with a grain of salt..... These people may be prophets ....
But it has been my experience that prophets of today are very vague in their prophecies and then when they sort of get it right ... it is all look at me.....
As far as Taylor being right about Trump ..... this guy (Trump) has planned to run multiple years ... so I am not impressed ....
Does that make them False Prophets -- I did not say that .... but if they have even one missed prediction -- then yes they are......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 13:24:22 GMT -6
typically the people on those lists are career politicians though. Not celebrities on TV shows. I take it that you are of the belief that Taylor and Clement are not prophets? I don’t mean that negative at all, just value your opinions and would like to know what you think Hi Soup2345
Actually, I take anyone's "today prophecies" with a grain of salt..... These people may be prophets ....
But it has been my experience that prophets of today are very vague in their prophecies and then when they sort of get it right ... it is all look at me.....
As far as Taylor being right about Trump ..... this guy (Trump) has planned to run multiple years ... so I am not impressed ....
Does that make them False Prophets -- I did not say that .... but if they have even one missed prediction -- then yes they are......
great points KJs. i am not very familiar with Kim clement but have been listening to Taylor for awhile and have yet to hear of a message from him that was incorrect. Not saying that there aren’t any that are incorrect, but just none that I have heard. Taylor does not strike me as a showman or somebody who is outright seeking the spotlight. In my amateur opinion he genuinely believes the Lord is giving him words of prophecy and not a glory hound. He comes across as very humbled by this newfound gift and he adds that he is the most unlikely person to be a conduit for God’s word in this manner. Again, these are just my impressions of him from listening to him speak. As socalexile brought up, Taylor certainly gives God all the credit and believes in salvation and that it’s only possible through the precious shed blood of Jesus. I would be truly dumbfounded if he is not a born again believer himself. If you haven’t heard any of his messages I encourage you to listen to a few and let me know what you think. And certainly let me know of any discrepancies that anyone sees with him or his messages because I do not want to waste any of our limited time left on earth with false doctrines.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 13:39:11 GMT -6
Soup, I know very little about Kim Clement, and even less about Mark Taylor. Didn't mean to insinuate that either are false prophets. Just thinking a prediction re: Trump becoming President was an easy one. As always, the biblical test for these guys is simple...have their predictions come true? Like, all of them? That's how we would know. With all due respect Fitz, I don’t think this was easy one by any stretch. Most people didn’t even believe he would win the presidency on the day of the election, much less 5 years beforehand. Running for president and actually winning are vastly different.
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Post by uscgvet on Sept 10, 2018 14:49:33 GMT -6
Soup, I know very little about Kim Clement, and even less about Mark Taylor. Didn't mean to insinuate that either are false prophets. Just thinking a prediction re: Trump becoming President was an easy one. As always, the biblical test for these guys is simple...have their predictions come true? Like, all of them? That's how we would know. With all due respect Fitz, I don’t think this was easy one by any stretch. Most people didn’t even believe he would win the presidency on the day of the election, much less 5 years beforehand. Running for president and actually winning are vastly different. I'll say this. My wife and I were watching Fox when Trump came on to announce he was running for President, at the time I wasn't sure what the speech was about, maybe a new TV show; but after his speech ended... I looked over to my wife and pointed at the TV and said "Right there is the next President, he just won!". She looked at me like I was crazy. I was completely sure he won and from that moment, decided against the other candidate I was going to vote for... because I knew he would lose to Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 15:08:54 GMT -6
With all due respect Fitz, I don’t think this was easy one by any stretch. Most people didn’t even believe he would win the presidency on the day of the election, much less 5 years beforehand. Running for president and actually winning are vastly different. I'll say this. My wife and I were watching Fox when Trump came on to announce he was running for President, at the time I wasn't sure what the speech was about, maybe a new TV show; but after his speech ended... I looked over to my wife and pointed at the TV and said "Right there is the next President, he just won!". She looked at me like I was crazy. I was completely sure he won and from that moment, decided against the other candidate I was going to vote for... because I knew he would lose to Trump. You were certainly ahead of the curve then. But even as early as you were on board, that press conference where he came down the escalator at Trump Tower to announce his candidacy was in 2015 and he was an official candidate. Making that statement in 2011 would have been silly and with no real merit to base such a claim. Most people would legitimately think you were certifiable. PS...in case I have never told you...thank you very much for your service sir.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 15:27:21 GMT -6
Not to dash anyone's bubble about "current prophecies" .... BUT Trump has been itching to be President since the 1990's .....
Not to dash anyone’s bubble, but I have been itching to be the QB of the Dallas Cowboys since the 80s but it doesn’t mean that I am likely to achieve that goal. 😀. Simply wanting something doesn’t mean that it is likely to come true. The point i am I am tying to make is that while trump hinted at wanting to be candidate for many years, it didn’t make it obvious or even likely that he would ever be president. Especially given the track record of folks once they try and fail at securing the presidency the likelyhood of ever wining is drastically lowered. Trump in 2016 during the campaign was a national punchline to most people. Even when he officially declared to run back in 2015 most folks thought it was only a publicity stunt and that he had zero chance of securing the republican nomination, much less beating Hillary. Mark Taylor didn’t prophesy that Trump would simply run for the office of President...he said that Trump would win. Cannot overstate how large a feat that was back in 2011.
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