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Post by kjs on Aug 22, 2018 7:02:15 GMT -6
Ok, maybe it is just me ..... But there seems to be a ton (ok, quite a few) videos out claiming Sept. 9th / 10th (this year 2018) will be the rapture date....
All because that is this year's Feast of Trumpts .....
Don't get me wrong, I want the rapture to happen very soon.... but to continue to insist each Feast of Trumpts seems to be excessive ....
Thoughts / Comments.....?
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Post by rt on Aug 22, 2018 7:18:49 GMT -6
Ok, maybe it is just me ..... But there seems to be a ton (ok, quite a few) videos out claiming Sept. 9th / 10th (this year 2018) will be the rapture date.... All because that is this year's Feast of Trumpts ..... Don't get me wrong, I want the rapture to happen very soon.... but to continue to insist each Feast of Trumpts seems to be excessive .... Thoughts / Comments.....? I agree, I think it diminishes God's word when people continue to fail at their date setting. It also diminishes our credibility in the eyes of unbelievers. Could it happen- yes sure, it could. I would welcome it, but should believers get caught up with date setting? My answer is emphatically....no.
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Post by davewatchman on Aug 22, 2018 17:20:49 GMT -6
Ok, maybe it is just me ..... But there seems to be a ton (ok, quite a few) videos out claiming Sept. 9th / 10th (this year 2018) will be the rapture date.... All because that is this year's Feast of Trumpts ..... Don't get me wrong, I want the rapture to happen very soon.... but to continue to insist each Feast of Trumpts seems to be excessive .... Thoughts / Comments.....? I could probably do a comment, i don't know if it would qualify as a thought. I didn't know that people continually insist that each feast of trumpets would be the rapture. I slept through the previous Yom Teruah. Wasn't it the day after the Revelation 12 sign? I do remember reading some people saying they thought the second coming would be on a future feast day. Or something like that. But i never thought too much of it. It seemed too easy to me. I never really looked into the feast days. I'm new. I only just found out that Yom Teruah goes by three different names. I've only been investigating apocalyptic prophecy since 2013. I didn't start out being a date setter. But i can understand how it's not for everyone. But i like your note here because it gives me a sense of the sentiment over this 9/11. I don't see that many videos about it. Just the ones from Phil and the 9/11 comet one from Steve at blessed hope. I don't see posts about it on the other forums. I don't sense any sort of apprehension or frenzy over it. And that makes it more spooky for me. Jesus said to watch, i know we've heard it a million times. But He seemed to say it with an implied imperative. "What I say to you I say to all, watch! "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.. I remember when i first read these instructions, it gives me a strange feeling. Like what am i supposed to be watching for? Will there be signs that are so subtle that they will be easily missed? Signs that could be overlooked due to our preconceptions? Signs that could be overlooked due to all of the false alarms? I know the Hal Lindsey story and the Tim Lahaye story. But i can also consider an alternative story that would have us much deeper into a Revelation matrix narrative that most people would NOT be able to accept. The Abomination, the holy place, Paul's man of sin and the seat of authority that he steals in the temple of the real God of gods. I think we're already half ways through the forty two of Revelation 13, at verse 11, and nobody but me can hear the composite beast open it's mouth to blaspheme God and His dwelling place and those who live in heaven. So shoot me another green comet and chase it with a perihelion on this September 11, and i'll jump at the sound of a pin drop. I'm wound up tighter than a spring on an overloaded dodge ram. But after January 2019 i'm out of bullets. I got nothin'. All my signs will be out of gas by then, all the decrees to restore and to rebuild will be out of fuel, and i'll be looking to build a pole barn to store my junk trucks. No more banquet of trumpets for super dave. He'll be talking about himself in the third person narrative in the nut house. Comet warning: Green glowing Comet 21P lights up night skies as it barrels towards EarthCOMET 21P has lit up in the night skies with an ominous green glow as it hastily approaches planet Earth. By SEBASTIAN KETTLEY 16:47, Mon, Aug 20, 2018 | UPDATED: 16:54, Mon, Aug 20, 2018 The comet and the Earth will soon approach each other next month in the afternoon hours on September 10, UT.
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Post by nana on Sept 11, 2018 11:31:58 GMT -6
Don't lose heart, been watching since 1988 and every year that goes by is a year closer to the rapture. When it doesn't happen on FOT I think we have another year to reach the lost. For me I will be on high watch till Shemini Atzeret
Many have been watching for much longer, some most of their lives. Hang in there, it will happen at the exact perfect time.
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Post by nana on Sept 11, 2018 11:52:36 GMT -6
Another thing. The calendar says the new moon is the 9th and Rosh Hashanah is the 10th which would start at moonrise on the 9th. However no moon was sighted as called for by 2 witnesses on either the 9th-10th nor the 10th-11th. It was sighted on the 11th and will run until the 12th. Here is what I find interesting, the Jews made it into a 2 day event somewhere along the lines and call it Rosh Hashanah instead of the biblically given name of feast of Trumpets. Could it be God is saying look you have it wrong, wrong time and wrong name. It didn't start until outside of the time frame of the calendar's date and outside of the 2 days.
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Post by venge on Sept 11, 2018 12:07:17 GMT -6
Ok, maybe it is just me ..... But there seems to be a ton (ok, quite a few) videos out claiming Sept. 9th / 10th (this year 2018) will be the rapture date.... All because that is this year's Feast of Trumpts ..... Don't get me wrong, I want the rapture to happen very soon.... but to continue to insist each Feast of Trumpts seems to be excessive .... Thoughts / Comments.....? When I read some of these suggestions, I think back to this: Christ gave the answer. Look at the sign of the times. Not the Heavens, not the feast of trumpet dates, not blood moons, not comets, not 2,000 years by 2k by 2k. Not some random date to add to the creation of Israel....look at the times. Even the people then were blind and deaf that it was right in front of them, yet they remained blind and dumb and deaf. That is spiritual blindness, deafness and dumbness. They were as Dead and today the same things happen. We have a generation chasing after things they can interpret, yet what they should be looking for is right in front of them.....how can they interpret one and not the other? I don't get it. (I'm not looking for a response, just merely pointing it out.)
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Post by fitz on Sept 11, 2018 12:31:34 GMT -6
Ok, maybe it is just me ..... But there seems to be a ton (ok, quite a few) videos out claiming Sept. 9th / 10th (this year 2018) will be the rapture date.... All because that is this year's Feast of Trumpts ..... Don't get me wrong, I want the rapture to happen very soon.... but to continue to insist each Feast of Trumpts seems to be excessive .... Thoughts / Comments.....? When I read some of these suggestions, I think back to this: Christ gave the answer. Look at the sign of the times. Not the Heavens, not the feast of trumpet dates, not blood moons, not comets, not 2,000 years by 2k by 2k. Not some random date to add to the creation of Israel....look at the times. Even the people then were blind and deaf that it was right in front of them, yet they remained blind and dumb and deaf. That is spiritual blindness, deafness and dumbness. They were as Dead and today the same things happen. We have a generation chasing after things they can interpret, yet what they should be looking for is right in front of them.....how can they interpret one and not the other? I don't get it. (I'm not looking for a response, just merely pointing it out.) You mean like earthquakes in diverse places?
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Post by davewatchman on Sept 11, 2018 15:43:25 GMT -6
Don't lose heart, been watching since 1988 and every year that goes by is a year closer to the rapture. When it doesn't happen on FOT I think we have another year to reach the lost. For me I will be on high watch till Shemini Atzeret Many have been watching for much longer, some most of their lives. Hang in there, it will happen at the exact perfect time. I've been looking at these things since 2013. But never so intense as i am right now. I can't really lose heart until next year. But i worry about the other people, like Phil who does all the Yom Teruah videos. And i'm a bit concerned that what i think is going on just gets weirder and weirder. But it's not over yet. Sundown for me is around 7:34. But maybe the Lord is waiting for people to get home from work in California. And i had to google that Shemini Atzeret thing. I never heard of it. The feasts have not been my specialty. You sound smart nana. I picked up on a couple of the links you posted on the shoutbox. I use that ventusky all the time now, i like it. I zoom in to my area and select the "clouds" to see when they're coming, and how long i can expect them to stay. It's pretty good. Actually, it's excellent. Thanks nana.
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Post by davewatchman on Sept 11, 2018 15:50:59 GMT -6
Ok, maybe it is just me ..... But there seems to be a ton (ok, quite a few) videos out claiming Sept. 9th / 10th (this year 2018) will be the rapture date.... All because that is this year's Feast of Trumpts ..... Don't get me wrong, I want the rapture to happen very soon.... but to continue to insist each Feast of Trumpts seems to be excessive .... Thoughts / Comments.....? When I read some of these suggestions, I think back to this: Christ gave the answer. Look at the sign of the times. Not the Heavens, not the feast of trumpet dates, not blood moons, not comets, not 2,000 years by 2k by 2k. Not some random date to add to the creation of Israel....look at the times. Even the people then were blind and deaf that it was right in front of them, yet they remained blind and dumb and deaf. That is spiritual blindness, deafness and dumbness. They were as Dead and today the same things happen. We have a generation chasing after things they can interpret, yet what they should be looking for is right in front of them.....how can they interpret one and not the other? I don't get it. (I'm not looking for a response, just merely pointing it out.) Yes but who was He talking to venge. He was talking to the bad guys. He was talking to the pharisees. The pharisees were asking Him to do a magic trick. "If you are the Messiah, prove it, show us a sign. We're the evil and adulterous generation. They were the Edward G. Robinson children asking: "Where's your Moses now? But God's people have always been curious about the return of their Savoir. When the disciples asked: "“Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
What did He tell them? No soup for you? Go fish for it? Look for the red sky at night? Nope. He sat down and gave them a list of signs to watch for as long as your arm. The "darkened" sun, and a moon that will not give it's light.
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Post by nana on Sept 11, 2018 16:15:48 GMT -6
Don't lose heart, been watching since 1988 and every year that goes by is a year closer to the rapture. When it doesn't happen on FOT I think we have another year to reach the lost. For me I will be on high watch till Shemini Atzeret Many have been watching for much longer, some most of their lives. Hang in there, it will happen at the exact perfect time. I've been looking at these things since 2013. But never so intense as i am right now. I can't really lose heart until next year. But i worry about the other people, like Phil who does all the Yom Teruah videos. And i'm a bit concerned that what i think is going on just gets weirder and weirder. But it's not over yet. Sundown for me is around 7:34. But maybe the Lord is waiting for people to get home from work in California. And i had to google that Shemini Atzeret thing. I never heard of it. The feasts have not been my specialty. You sound smart nana. I picked up on a couple of the links you posted on the shoutbox. I use that ventusky all the time now, i like it. I zoom in to my area and select the "clouds" to see when they're coming, and how long i can expect them to stay. It's pretty good. Actually, it's excellent. Thanks nana. I think one thing that has kept me grounded over the years is thinking about what Noah had to endure while building the ark, I think it was 120 years? Anyway, that keeps me going strange as it may seem and also makes me search for anything that happens 7 days before the fall fest days.
We are all part of the body and are called to do different things but all are important and needed for the body to function.
You are very welcome for the ventusky link, it's pretty cool.
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Post by mike on Sept 11, 2018 16:21:17 GMT -6
Venge Just because you don't understand doesn't invalidate what others watch. I know you know the Lord gave us the moon and stars for signs and seasons. Some of us see these as signs, in fact there was a great one nearly a year ago. Additional fact this is the reason I am not still lost in my carnality and sin. God grabbed me by the shirt and yelled "wake up!" Is every blood moon a sign from God? Doubtful. Are 4 in a series, falling on Feast days? Highly likely.
And I'm not discounting what you say but like Dave is pointing out, the context there (in the verse you reference) is for the Pharasies
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Post by venge on Sept 12, 2018 11:52:36 GMT -6
When I read some of these suggestions, I think back to this: Christ gave the answer. Look at the sign of the times. Not the Heavens, not the feast of trumpet dates, not blood moons, not comets, not 2,000 years by 2k by 2k. Not some random date to add to the creation of Israel....look at the times. Even the people then were blind and deaf that it was right in front of them, yet they remained blind and dumb and deaf. That is spiritual blindness, deafness and dumbness. They were as Dead and today the same things happen. We have a generation chasing after things they can interpret, yet what they should be looking for is right in front of them.....how can they interpret one and not the other? I don't get it. (I'm not looking for a response, just merely pointing it out.) You mean like earthquakes in diverse places?
Nope. I was thinking more in line with a falling away, the love of most waxes cold, effeminate men, scoffers, accusers, truce breakers etc...
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Post by venge on Sept 12, 2018 11:55:05 GMT -6
When I read some of these suggestions, I think back to this: Christ gave the answer. Look at the sign of the times. Not the Heavens, not the feast of trumpet dates, not blood moons, not comets, not 2,000 years by 2k by 2k. Not some random date to add to the creation of Israel....look at the times. Even the people then were blind and deaf that it was right in front of them, yet they remained blind and dumb and deaf. That is spiritual blindness, deafness and dumbness. They were as Dead and today the same things happen. We have a generation chasing after things they can interpret, yet what they should be looking for is right in front of them.....how can they interpret one and not the other? I don't get it. (I'm not looking for a response, just merely pointing it out.) Yes but who was He talking to venge. He was talking to the bad guys. He was talking to the pharisees. The pharisees were asking Him to do a magic trick. "If you are the Messiah, prove it, show us a sign. We're the evil and adulterous generation. They were the Edward G. Robinson children asking: "Where's your Moses now? But God's people have always been curious about the return of their Savoir. When the disciples asked: "“Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
What did He tell them? No soup for you? Go fish for it? Look for the red sky at night? Nope. He sat down and gave them a list of signs to watch for as long as your arm. The "darkened" sun, and a moon that will not give it's light. Yes watchman, you are correct. He did say that. Truth be told, it has already been shown yet many still don't believe. Hope you understand.
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Post by venge on Sept 12, 2018 12:01:33 GMT -6
Venge Just because you don't understand doesn't invalidate what others watch. I know you know the Lord gave us the moon and stars for signs and seasons. Some of us see these as signs, in fact there was a great one nearly a year ago. Additional fact this is the reason I am not still lost in my carnality and sin. God grabbed me by the shirt and yelled "wake up!" Is every blood moon a sign from God? Doubtful. Are 4 in a series, falling on Feast days? Highly likely. And I'm not discounting what you say but like Dave is pointing out, the context there (in the verse you reference) is for the Pharasies =P Mike, I wont expand on it or provide additional scripture. The naysayers have spoken enough, set on their ways. They have set their eyes on the stars. Let them have it, they don't want to hear anything but that. Deaf are they to any thing else for they are set in their ways and their ways are correct to them.
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Post by Gary on Sept 12, 2018 15:24:25 GMT -6
Sounds like saying a lot without saying anything. What are the 'signs of the times' if not the specific signs God Himself gave us in His word? He told us there would be signs in the Heavens. He told us the generation that began to see these things would not pass away. He gave us The Parable of the Fig Tree. He likened it to the days of Noah and Lot. He gave us a laundry list of other signs. You're wagging your finger at your brothers and sisters in Christ who are faithfully watching and encouraging one another with the hope of the rapture (1 Thess. 4:18). Don't do that. Not good. =P Mike, I wont expand on it or provide additional scripture. The naysayers have spoken enough, set on their ways. They have set their eyes on the stars. Let them have it, they don't want to hear anything but that. Deaf are they to any thing else for they are set in their ways and their ways are correct to them. Please be aware, we only have three rules here so as to keep it simple and open to discussion and varying views. You can share your difference of opinion without doing what you're doing. Consider this a friendly warning about Rule #3.
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