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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jan 24, 2018 18:59:15 GMT -6
@soup2345 I saw it twice because it was so fascinating. Also, on TW Tramm's FB page he had a follower send him a pic of a cigar shaped object that seemed UFO-like. In the docufilm there was an identical object so much so I told Tramm to check it out.
I have no problem with there being physical evidence of these things. To me they are demons more likely than anything. Oh, and the other thing, I have one of Tramm's books that talks about alien abduction. I skipped reading that part until I saw the movie. Several of the names in the book are in that movie. Tram had not seen this movie, it was not made when he wrote his book, I dont think. Anyway, there were other witnesses in Tram's book that validated what was portrayed in the film. Too many coincidences.
And then we have what was reported by our military, the video account, that FN reported. Since I am strong in my faith I do not really worry about this, however, the other night I was walking from the barn to the house in pitch black and I got freaked out by the blackness. It was partly cloudy, no moon, no snow on the ground, I could see some stars, so I sang Jesus songs all the way to the house, about 300 yard walk...Holy Moly
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Post by yardstick on Jan 24, 2018 20:03:54 GMT -6
HEY, so has anyone see the docufilm called Unackowledged? btw, I saw the youtube video that talked about the fakeness of NASA, the shuttle explosion, how the sun moves etc... I could totally be convinced that NASA is a deception. However, when it came to the guy talking about an airplane flying over a globe and it needing to adjust but it doesn't (?), I still didnt agree with his theory that the plane flies in a straight line and would leave the planet if the planet were a sphere...This is where I'd bring yardstick in and say, uh, gravity from the point of view of a sphere, has a single constant point of contact with said object as said object moves over the sphere...and then I never took Stick's math class, so I quit trying to think. LOL
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Post by Joecool on Jan 25, 2018 6:39:36 GMT -6
Some conspiracy theories that I have been really interested in: A) Genesis 6:4. Who are the Nephilim? This chapter has really caused me to spend many nights reading books and articles on the subject of Giants, Nephilim, and other hard to explain phenomena of the Old Testament. It also has lead me to the conclusion of how many pastors and churches are flat out scared or under equipped to discuss this topic and why I believe the Nephilim bloodline is why the Earth was destroyed in the Genesis flood. (I know this is probably not the kind of "conspiracy theory" you were getting at though so I will list some more modern day topics I enjoy) B) UFOs and Space- ever since I was a little boy I would day dream about space. I would think about the vastness of the universe and dream about one getting to board the space shuttle and see planets first hand. As I would attend Sunday School I can remember plain as day asking my teachers, "Why would God create so much stuff up there if we are the only planet with life on it?" To 10 year old me, It just seemed like such a "waste of space" (pun intended). Sadly as I have gotten older, the fantasy of space travel and NASA has shattered that reality, i don't believe that we have been to the moon. I don't believe we have a rover on Mars either. Furthermore, I think NASA was founded with satanic ties and rooted in the occult. And somehow a faked alien invasion or some kind of Project Blue Beam type scenario with NASA help will help usher in the anti-christ system and one world government, (wow, please don't think I am a nutter after reading this😀😀) I too think you are right and they will fake an alien invasion, afterall the antichrist's people can't really say "the rapture was predicted in the Bible" I have wondered how they will explained the judgement's of The Book of Revelation. Perhaps they will say the aliens (fallen angels) have some new weapon.
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Post by disciple4life on Jan 25, 2018 10:15:14 GMT -6
Some conspiracy theories that I have been really interested in: A) Genesis 6:4. Who are the Nephilim? This chapter has really caused me to spend many nights reading books and articles on the subject of Giants, Nephilim, and other hard to explain phenomena of the Old Testament. It also has lead me to the conclusion of how many pastors and churches are flat out scared or under equipped to discuss this topic and why I believe the Nephilim bloodline is why the Earth was destroyed in the Genesis flood. (I know this is probably not the kind of "conspiracy theory" you were getting at though so I will list some more modern day topics I enjoy) B) UFOs and Space- ever since I was a little boy I would day dream about space. I would think about the vastness of the universe and dream about one getting to board the space shuttle and see planets first hand. As I would attend Sunday School I can remember plain as day asking my teachers, "Why would God create so much stuff up there if we are the only planet with life on it?" To 10 year old me, It just seemed like such a "waste of space" (pun intended). Sadly as I have gotten older, the fantasy of space travel and NASA has shattered that reality, i don't believe that we have been to the moon. I don't believe we have a rover on Mars either. Furthermore, I think NASA was founded with satanic ties and rooted in the occult. And somehow a faked alien invasion or some kind of Project Blue Beam type scenario with NASA help will help usher in the anti-christ system and one world government, (wow, please don't think I am a nutter after reading this😀😀) I too think you are right and they will fake an alien invasion, afterall the antichrist's people can't really say "the rapture was predicted in the Bible" I have wondered how they will explained the judgement's of The Book of Revelation. Perhaps they will say the aliens (fallen angels) have some new weapon. Hello Joecool. I agree, my brother, - that the governments around the world will be in full-blown damage control and there will be world-wide hysteria, panic, and rioting as the atheist and muslim countries will have no way to explain why millions of babies are missing - and the only thing that will make sense is Alien abduction for countries that have access to the outside world.
In places like NK where there's no social media, and news is tightly controlled, I think they will blame it on America / USA. But I think the main story of governements around the world will be alien abduction.
Here's another caveat - just my theory - but think about this - there will be the two fire-breathing ninja witnesses that do amazing miracles, - and there will also be the 144,000 witnesses, and all the tens of millions of people who heard the truth from their crazy Aunt Betsy and grandpa Jedidiah and by the time the AC does the Abomination of desolation, most of the Jews and most of those left behind will know that this was the rapture.
Again, it's my theory, but I think after the rapture - you just can't ignore tens of millions of people missing and all the plane crashes and train crashes and car crashes across the globe - and people will be very very open to the Bible, - but it will be too late.
Think about all the pastors who knew scripture - but weren't walking with Christ - or committed apostasy. When people's babies and children are suddenly missing - people are suddenly open to lots of theories - and would do most anything to get their children back.
Of course the Main stream media and governments will push the Alien abduction, but then people will realize, "Oh, yeah, the weird Christian coach I had is missing, and my neighbors used to invite me to church all the time - they're gone, and then my Aunt Dorothy and all her family are missing. Also, 2 of my co-workers are gone - they talked about church and one lady talked a lot about Jesus coming back - and I thought she was total nutjob." hmmmm. Think about it guys - how long will it be for people to make a connection of a profile of those who were missing. Interesting, how the Mormons will all be here and the JW's and people will see a much higher percentage of people missing from USA, and Canada and England, vs Atheist, Catholic and Muslim countries.
Hmmmmmm. I'd say a few months tops - and there will be national databases and statewide databases of "MIssing ones" from the 0X-1X-2018 event - whatever date that turns out to be. People will be demanding answers from Police, FBI, CIA and congressmen, and the president, - but my guess is that he and Pence will also be missing - this will compound the panic.
Disciple4life
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Post by kjs on Jan 25, 2018 14:41:33 GMT -6
Hmmmmmm. I'd say a few months tops - and there will be national databases and statewide databases of "MIssing ones" from the 0X-1X-2018 event - whatever date that turns out to be. People will be demanding answers from Police, FBI, CIA and congressmen, and the president, - but my guess is that he and Pence will also be missing - this will compound the panic.
Disciple4life
JUST to do a bit of teasing ............ 0X-1X-2018 Umm, do you know something you want to share ..... First you have the year being 2018 -- as in most definitely this current year......... Second the month being 0X --- seems to indicate you think it will happen in the first few months -- but nothing past September (the ninth month) Third -- the day being 1X --- means you are expecting MID-Month -- as in the 10th through the 19th So you want to share..................
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Post by fitz on Jan 25, 2018 17:04:46 GMT -6
Quick aside...It's amazing to think about, but, I believe there will be people born again just minutes after the rapture. How many christian wives will be having coffee with their non-christian husbands and vanish before their eyes? Wow. He's going to instantly understand what just happened due to her preachin' Jesus and the rapture to him all the time! Think he won't cry out to Jesus? Many will at that moment.
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Post by disciple4life on Jan 25, 2018 17:51:32 GMT -6
Hmmmmmm. I'd say a few months tops - and there will be national databases and statewide databases of "MIssing ones" from the 0X-1X-2018 event - whatever date that turns out to be. People will be demanding answers from Police, FBI, CIA and congressmen, and the president, - but my guess is that he and Pence will also be missing - this will compound the panic.
Disciple4life
JUST to do a bit of teasing ............ 0X-1X-2018 Umm, do you know something you want to share ..... First you have the year being 2018 -- as in most definitely this current year......... Second the month being 0X --- seems to indicate you think it will happen in the first few months -- but nothing past September (the ninth month) Third -- the day being 1X --- means you are expecting MID-Month -- as in the 10th through the 19th So you want to share.................. Hey, buddy,
No meaning intended - I was trying to put the XX's to make it NOT be some specific date, - It's as random as I could make it, - but then I forgot - this is the conspiracy thread. ROFL. ;-)
I think there's some connection to the blood moons, - but not sure what or how. I think the 31st of Jan is interesting since it's a Super Blue Blood Moon. This hasn't happened in 150 years - but I'm not into setting dates. We're sure seeing earthquakes and volcanos. The only other date I think is very very significant - but again- not sure how - is the 70th Anniversary of Isreal. I think it's March, but don't remember.
Maranatha. I think the labor pains are only going to increase in frequency and intensity.
Blessings, Disciple4life.
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Post by disciple4life on Jan 25, 2018 17:56:00 GMT -6
Quick aside...It's amazing to think about, but, I believe there will be people born again just minutes after the rapture. How many christian wives will be having coffee with their non-christian husbands and vanish before their eyes? Wow. He's going to instantly understand what just happened due to her preachin' Jesus and the rapture to him all the time! Think he won't cry out to Jesus? Many will at that moment. Absolutely, fitz. Just think about how many mockers and scoffers who ridiculed Noah and his family, even some for years, as he worked on the ark, and then, when they saw the animals supernaturally drawn by God coming to the ark. Wow. And then I'm sure that thousands knew it was true when the first drop of rain fell. That's also why I say that in that instant, tens of thousands of Jews' eyes will be opened. All the prophecy will make sense after the Harpazo.
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Post by katmak on Jan 25, 2018 19:08:37 GMT -6
Here's another caveat - just my theory - but think about this - there will be the two fire-breathing ninja witnesses that do amazing miracles, - and there will also be the 144,000 witnesses, and all the tens of millions of people who heard the truth from their crazy Aunt Betsy and grandpa Jedidiah and by the time the AC does the Abomination of desolation, most of the Jews and most of those left behind will know that this was the rapture.
Again, it's my theory, but I think after the rapture - you just can't ignore tens of millions of people missing and all the plane crashes and train crashes and car crashes across the globe - and people will be very very open to the Bible, - but it will be too late.
Think about all the pastors who knew scripture - but weren't walking with Christ - or committed apostasy. When people's babies and children are suddenly missing - people are suddenly open to lots of theories - and would do most anything to get their children back.
Of course the Main stream media and governments will push the Alien abduction, but then people will realize, "Oh, yeah, the weird Christian coach I had is missing, and my neighbors used to invite me to church all the time - they're gone, and then my Aunt Dorothy and all her family are missing. Also, 2 of my co-workers are gone - they talked about church and one lady talked a lot about Jesus coming back - and I thought she was total nutjob." hmmmm.
HA! Ninja witnesses! I hope we get to see this from the mezzanine! Is it bad of me to hope that we get to see reaction shots from some of the more famous baddies on the planet? Don't get me wrong, I'll pray earnestly for these folks' salvation, but I get the sense that some will be too stubborn or puffed up in their own importance to give way to God. I'm also recalling the 'Woe' angels, who will be sounding warnings throughout the world. Assuming that their 'shout-outs' will be recognized by every nation and tongue, I don't think that there will be ANY whom can say that they weren't told, taught, warned or shared with. The MSM won't be able to cover these guys up.
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Post by Joecool on Jan 26, 2018 5:45:19 GMT -6
I too think you are right and they will fake an alien invasion, afterall the antichrist's people can't really say "the rapture was predicted in the Bible" I have wondered how they will explained the judgement's of The Book of Revelation. Perhaps they will say the aliens (fallen angels) have some new weapon. Hello Joecool . I agree, my brother, - that the governments around the world will be in full-blown damage control and there will be world-wide hysteria, panic, and rioting as the atheist and muslim countries will have no way to explain why millions of babies are missing - and the only thing that will make sense is Alien abduction for countries that have access to the outside world.
In places like NK where there's no social media, and news is tightly controlled, I think they will blame it on America / USA. But I think the main story of governements around the world will be alien abduction.
Here's another caveat - just my theory - but think about this - there will be the two fire-breathing ninja witnesses that do amazing miracles, - and there will also be the 144,000 witnesses, and all the tens of millions of people who heard the truth from their crazy Aunt Betsy and grandpa Jedidiah and by the time the AC does the Abomination of desolation, most of the Jews and most of those left behind will know that this was the rapture.
Again, it's my theory, but I think after the rapture - you just can't ignore tens of millions of people missing and all the plane crashes and train crashes and car crashes across the globe - and people will be very very open to the Bible, - but it will be too late.
Think about all the pastors who knew scripture - but weren't walking with Christ - or committed apostasy. When people's babies and children are suddenly missing - people are suddenly open to lots of theories - and would do most anything to get their children back.
Of course the Main stream media and governments will push the Alien abduction, but then people will realize, "Oh, yeah, the weird Christian coach I had is missing, and my neighbors used to invite me to church all the time - they're gone, and then my Aunt Dorothy and all her family are missing. Also, 2 of my co-workers are gone - they talked about church and one lady talked a lot about Jesus coming back - and I thought she was total nutjob." hmmmm. Think about it guys - how long will it be for people to make a connection of a profile of those who were missing. Interesting, how the Mormons will all be here and the JW's and people will see a much higher percentage of people missing from USA, and Canada and England, vs Atheist, Catholic and Muslim countries.
Hmmmmmm. I'd say a few months tops - and there will be national databases and statewide databases of "MIssing ones" from the 0X-1X-2018 event - whatever date that turns out to be. People will be demanding answers from Police, FBI, CIA and congressmen, and the president, - but my guess is that he and Pence will also be missing - this will compound the panic.
Disciple4life
Yea some people will realize their weird Christian grandma's etc are missing, but what about the so called (fake) christians that are still around? I could see certain people being like oh it wasn't christians or that (fake) christian guy wouldn't still be here. I was thinking in the aftermath of the rapture the electricity would go out for days/weeks giving the newly arrived antichrist time to consolidate his power.
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Post by kjs on Jan 26, 2018 10:19:52 GMT -6
HA! Ninja witnesses! I hope we get to see this from the mezzanine! Is it bad of me to hope that we get to see reaction shots from some of the more famous baddies on the planet? Don't get me wrong, I'll pray earnestly for these folks' salvation, but I get the sense that some will be too stubborn or puffed up in their own importance to give way to God. I'm also recalling the 'Woe' angels, who will be sounding warnings throughout the world. Assuming that their 'shout-outs' will be recognized by every nation and tongue, I don't think that there will be ANY whom can say that they weren't told, taught, warned or shared with. The MSM won't be able to cover these guys up. I know Chuck Missler is famous for saying we will catch watching everything from the mezzanine...... BUT (and no I can not prove this) I suspect that when we are with Jesus (after the rapture) we will be OUTSIDE of TIME. If that is the case (being outside of time) we will (should) be able to "see" anything taking place just as it occurs -- kind of like on the spot for any type of breaking news.......... Assuming of course that God will allow US -- to watch earthly events as they unfold...... It is possible, that God does not want us to watch unfolding events and therefore we will be unaware of anything.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 11:29:24 GMT -6
Something strange is up with the Hawaii and Japan false missile alerts. I have no idea what it is, but JD Farag reported in his prophecy update Sunday that there were FIVE steps before the message went out. I can understand clicking the wrong box or something, but there are "Are you sure you want to do this?" steps after that... five of them according to JD. I think he got this info from that former Congressman who questioned the whole situation. And the news is saying it took so long to correct because the governor forgot his twitter password. Hmmm. www.yahoo.com/news/feds-hawaii-missile-alert-employee-not-cooperating-probe-221100876.htmlIts insulting that the media and our government pushes this junk down our throat. And equally, if not more annoying is the fact that the population just eats it hook line and sinker. It's outrageous the lies they get away with.
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Post by witness1 on Jan 26, 2018 13:27:15 GMT -6
Not sure if you saw my follow up post or not, but after thinking about this more, it may be the military who is being secretive about things, and if this is the case, I am sure it is in our best interest for our defense. I do think there are a lot of conspiracies out there as far as the government is concerned, but I believe the best about our military and their desire to keep us safe. If they did shoot something down, they may not want to broadcast that to the enemy. They may just want the enemy to think they failed to hit their target. The lack of information to the public may be in the interest of safety and defense and not a conspiracy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 14:06:08 GMT -6
The military and national defense angle is a very valid point Witness. My issue with this situation is that if indeed there was a missile fired at Hawaii and or Japan and the missile was shot down by the military, then the residents should be informed and shown how serious the situation is.
Way too many folks will be even more complacent and not take the necessary precautions now and be ill prepared in the event a true missile were to hit the USA or Japan, folks should be given the facts and then allow them to make a decision for themselves. I know that if I was a Hawaiian resident and I got a report that a rogue country was firing missiles at my city, I would leave ASAP. Some may choose to stay which is fine also, but people should be able to decide based on facts, not lies from the government,
Also, Hawaii being an island, evacuating is not an easy undertaking when you are talking about having only a few minutes. The military should not have the ability to keep a missile being shot down a secret if that missile is being fired at US citizens. if a county did shoot a missile at Hawaii, that would constitute an act of war and those folks in Hawaii are in a war zone. give those residents a chance to get out of the danger zone (Top Gun reference😀) and get to safety before any more missiles are fired. Don't lie to them and give them a false sense of security.
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Post by witness1 on Jan 26, 2018 14:31:37 GMT -6
I see and understand what you’re a saying. I personally am just going to default to the Generals who know a lot more about war than I do.
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