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Post by kjs on Jan 9, 2018 12:07:54 GMT -6
This thread is a a followup to the created by Joecool in another section unsealed.boards.net/thread/1289/people-space?page=1&scrollTo=18516The purpose to discuss the notions of "Conspiracy Theories" without "hijacking" what his original discussion (Space travel /living).... In one of his posts Joecool said: "Most conspiracy theories have at least a tiny bit of truth in them. I have always suspected one of the smartest things the government (ruling elite) ever did was to make conspiracy theories seem crazy. " I will have to agree with that statement -- there appears to be "truth" in some of these "theories" -- and it is these truths that just seem to make other portions just seem possible. As an example let us take 911 -- yes the infamous 911 where America was attacked and great destruction took place. In New York City -- one of the buildings which came down on 911 was Building Seven (also known as World Trade Center Seven) Here are some curious and strange facts about this building. 1) The building was a Steel and Concrete building of 47 Floors 2) No Plane (nor any major debris) struck the building 3) Windows had been blown out and Fires had ignited on several floors caused by the destruction of the other buildings 4) Rough Six hours after the start of the fires, the complete building came down (roughly within its own Foot Print) (in other words without falling out and upon other buildings surrounding it) 5) It came down FAST, as if a Planned Demolition had been performed upon it. 6) It is the only Steel and Concrete building which has been completely been destroyed -- because of Fires Alone -- for all time before and all time since. 7) Buildings 3, 4, and 6 (all which were struck by fallen debris) -- were NEVER completely destroyed by the event -- In fact all of them had major portions of them have their main frames STILL Standing -- granted with major damage) 8) To date, no one has been able to explain the "WHY" about Building Seven..... Even more amazing is no one in the Media really wants to discuss it. If the subject is ever brought up it is Labeled as another Conspiracy Theory -- only discussed by whack-os and nut-jobs...... There are professional Builder Groups which want answers to the above strange facts -- but to date -- the Government simply passes everything off as a conspiracy theory .... that deserves no discussion. I personally would love to learn the "Truth" about Building Seven. I would love to learn the "Truth" about other Conspiracy Theories I have come across -- that have that "air of truth" -- which makes one go Hmmmm... ======== For this thread -- share some more conspiracy theories -- that make you go Hmmm.. Describe why these items get shifted over to tin-foil hat wearing Kooks -- that most do not take seriously....... And Finally ..... do you feel some people ..... are trying to make the "Rapture" .... into a Conspiracy Theory? ?
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Post by disciple4life on Jan 10, 2018 16:49:40 GMT -6
This thread is a a followup to the created by Joecool in another section unsealed.boards.net/thread/1289/people-space?page=1&scrollTo=18516The purpose to discuss the notions of "Conspiracy Theories" without "hijacking" what his original discussion (Space travel /living).... In one of his posts Joecool said: "Most conspiracy theories have at least a tiny bit of truth in them. I have always suspected one of the smartest things the government (ruling elite) ever did was to make conspiracy theories seem crazy. " I will have to agree with that statement -- there appears to be "truth" in some of these "theories" -- and it is these truths that just seem to make other portions just seem possible. As an example let us take 911 -- yes the infamous 911 where America was attacked and great destruction took place. In New York City -- one of the buildings which came down on 911 was Building Seven (also known as World Trade Center Seven) Here are some curious and strange facts about this building. 1) The building was a Steel and Concrete building of 47 Floors 2) No Plane (nor any major debris) struck the building 3) Windows had been blown out and Fires had ignited on several floors caused by the destruction of the other buildings 4) Rough Six hours after the start of the fires, the complete building came down (roughly within its own Foot Print) (in other words without falling out and upon other buildings surrounding it) 5) It came down FAST, as if a Planned Demolition had been performed upon it. 6) It is the only Steel and Concrete building which has been completely been destroyed -- because of Fires Alone -- for all time before and all time since. 7) Buildings 3, 4, and 6 (all which were struck by fallen debris) -- were NEVER completely destroyed by the event -- In fact all of them had major portions of them have their main frames STILL Standing -- granted with major damage) 8) To date, no one has been able to explain the "WHY" about Building Seven..... Even more amazing is no one in the Media really wants to discuss it. If the subject is ever brought up it is Labeled as another Conspiracy Theory -- only discussed by whack-os and nut-jobs...... There are professional Builder Groups which want answers to the above strange facts -- but to date -- the Government simply passes everything off as a conspiracy theory .... that deserves no discussion. I personally would love to learn the "Truth" about Building Seven. I would love to learn the "Truth" about other Conspiracy Theories I have come across -- that have that "air of truth" -- which makes one go Hmmmm... ======== For this thread -- share some more conspiracy theories -- that make you go Hmmm.. Describe why these items get shifted over to tin-foil hat wearing Kooks -- that most do not take seriously....... And Finally ..... do you feel some people ..... are trying to make the "Rapture" .... into a Conspiracy Theory? ? Man, Buddy, i love this thread. It's like a tennis ball to a Black Lab. heheh. I have to say, i'll try to stick with this same topic and not derail this amazing thread - so many great points you've touched on, here, bro - "Squirrel". OK, here's just a few other questions that no one can /will explain. - 1. All kinds of scientists - from Chemists to pyrotechnics engineers and demolitions experts all agree that Jet fuel is not powerful enough to melt steel. It's not physically or scientifically possible. No amount of 'office furniture, carpet or wood' can make the fire burn that hot. The fires 'including pictures of molten steel" in the basement levels were taken months after 9-11.
- There were independent, third party tests done with every single model of cell phone that was 'supposedly used' to make the calls from the planes. At that time, and that speed and that altitude, it was impossible. Not enough cell towers in place, and the technology was not advanced enough. **In other words, non of the calls that were 'received' were possible to be made with those phones from a commercial airline in 2001. They had to have been made from another location. Where?? ? and Why? How??
- There were no engines found at the crash site of the Pentagon. Commercial airlines are massive and even the engines alone are ginormous - weighing several tons each - they are not obliterated to confetti in a plane crash or a fire.
- Not sure if it was building 7 you refer to kjs, but one of the buildings was a massive skyscraper/highrise 80 stories or more, and it fell straight down, and near freefall speed. The laws of physics say that each floor falling on the next creates resistance and slows the speed. Entire skyscraper fell in seconds, - and straight down - exactly like in planned, commercial demolition, not like a building that would fall when the steel building was weakened at one point over long periods of intense heat.
- The buildings 'allegedly' collapsed straight down due to such extreme heat that it melted the steel reinforced concrete, but the passport of one of the hijackers was found within a block of the building.
- Multiple pictures of steel beams even down in the lower levels, 20 -40 stories below where the plane crashed, and the steel beams were cleanly sheared off - in exactly the same way that occurs in professional commercial demolition.
- World-wide coalition of over 300 scientists /engineers - who all confirmed that the reports didn't match tested, proven facts of science, engineering or physics.
OK, I'm also very fascinated, along with you- kjs, as to why people who ask questions like these, [and which no one can explain] get put in the same "Kook/ total nutcase" basket with people who believe the earth is flat, and who believe people Elvis is still alive.
So, how does conspiracy theories fit with the rapture. ?? While i believe firmly that the vast majority of Churches and Christians are sleeping, not watching, but the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of Christians believe in the rapture. ***They differ regarding the timing, and the details of the tribulation. When the rapture occurs - this will mean tens of millions of people around the world, all missing at the same instant. Just to think about all the airplanes in the sky from around the world at one time is mind-numbing. No Government, anywhere in the world - will say, 'Yeah, folks, it was the rapture, - you know, in the Bible, just like your crazy Grandma Hazel said, and this crazy small whacko sect in the hills of Arkansas. Turns out they were right." The only explanation that will be acceptable will be the alien abduction. - They can't use the terrorist line- can't make thousands just disappear literally out of airplanes. Can't use a storm, hurricane, tornado, tsunami, typhoon, earthquake - Nothing else works. doesn't explain all the millions missing in their sleep, and from airplanes and the babies while others beside them were left. Just think about the explosion of Alien movies, TV Series, films, games, cartoons, and stories of sightings around the world, in the last 20 years. - Just last week, there was story on Fox about a Navy Pilot, and other pilots and co-pilots as well as air-traffic controllers who all witnessed the same sighting. -Then there's the whole gargantuan top-secret military facility in the desert in Nevada, and the government report confirming that the US government has been studying and recording strange phenomena for decades with tens of millions of US taxpayer dollars.
The very sad thing is the very real and growing spread of replacement theology by Calvinists that ignores, denies the rapture, and tribulation, millennium all as allegory- and it is largely the reformed denominations that are making those who believe in the rapture, 2nd coming - out to be the "tin-foil hat-wearing kooks." These are the same exact groups who, sadly - boycott Israel and support the myth of non-existent people - [so-called Palestinians].
Maranatha, Disciple4life
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 15:53:54 GMT -6
Some conspiracy theories that I have been really interested in:
A) Genesis 6:4. Who are the Nephilim? This chapter has really caused me to spend many nights reading books and articles on the subject of Giants, Nephilim, and other hard to explain phenomena of the Old Testament. It also has lead me to the conclusion of how many pastors and churches are flat out scared or under equipped to discuss this topic and why I believe the Nephilim bloodline is why the Earth was destroyed in the Genesis flood. (I know this is probably not the kind of "conspiracy theory" you were getting at though so I will list some more modern day topics I enjoy)
B) UFOs and Space- ever since I was a little boy I would day dream about space. I would think about the vastness of the universe and dream about one getting to board the space shuttle and see planets first hand. As I would attend Sunday School I can remember plain as day asking my teachers, "Why would God create so much stuff up there if we are the only planet with life on it?" To 10 year old me, It just seemed like such a "waste of space" (pun intended).
Sadly as I have gotten older, the fantasy of space travel and NASA has shattered that reality, i don't believe that we have been to the moon. I don't believe we have a rover on Mars either. Furthermore, I think NASA was founded with satanic ties and rooted in the occult. And somehow a faked alien invasion or some kind of Project Blue Beam type scenario with NASA help will help usher in the anti-christ system and one world government, (wow, please don't think I am a nutter after reading this😀😀)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 16:51:48 GMT -6
disciple4lifeDang. I think you're right - right now I can't imagine anything but aliens be the lie that is told as to why people disappeared. How do you think that will work? Boom. Rapture happens. And then all the news networks are gonna be like "Oh yeah, um, by the way, aliens...."
Or I've also heard theories of there being a literal (but staged) alien invasion with aircraft and everything. Who knows, probably will be pretty convincing whatever lie the world comes up with. Ever since hearing about the Revelation 12 sign, it has kind of spurred me into the world of "conspiracy theories" too. I definitely think the powers that be have lumped that phrase and things of that nature with "nutcases" or "crazy things that sane people don't concern themselves with" to explain away people that are onto what is actually going on. It's also difficult for many (myself included) to discern the absolutely true conspiracy theory from all of the fluff and varying stories that get told concerning any one. Take any conspiracy theory really - like with the JFK assassination, or 9/11, or whatever. Truth is, something fishy happened. Not 100% certain of the proper details though.
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Post by witness1 on Jan 23, 2018 19:51:45 GMT -6
Something strange is up with the Hawaii and Japan false missile alerts. I have no idea what it is, but JD Farag reported in his prophecy update Sunday that there were FIVE steps before the message went out. I can understand clicking the wrong box or something, but there are "Are you sure you want to do this?" steps after that... five of them according to JD. I think he got this info from that former Congressman who questioned the whole situation. And the news is saying it took so long to correct because the governor forgot his twitter password. Hmmm.
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Post by sawdy on Jan 23, 2018 22:49:08 GMT -6
(wow, please don't think I am a nutter after reading this😀😀) You- a nutter?!?! Incredulous!
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Post by kjs on Jan 24, 2018 10:45:29 GMT -6
Something strange is up with the Hawaii and Japan false missile alerts. I have no idea what it is, but JD Farag reported in his prophecy update Sunday that there were FIVE steps before the message went out. I can understand clicking the wrong box or something, but there are "Are you sure you want to do this?" steps after that... five of them according to JD. I think he got this info from that former Congressman who questioned the whole situation. And the news is saying it took so long to correct because the governor forgot his twitter password. Hmmm. There are now a few videos out on Youtube -- stating the "alerts" were in fact correct -- and that there really was an incoming missile fired from a rouge sub and that the US Navy brought (shot) the missile down over water. I have no "proof" other than said videos -- but if you think about it .... it does kind of makes sense -- why the "time delay" before saying it was false Alert?
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Post by katmak on Jan 24, 2018 14:19:11 GMT -6
A) Genesis 6:4. Who are the Nephilim? This chapter has really caused me to spend many nights reading books and articles on the subject of Giants, Nephilim, and other hard to explain phenomena of the Old Testament. It also has lead me to the conclusion of how many pastors and churches are flat out scared or under equipped to discuss this topic and why I believe the Nephilim bloodline is why the Earth was destroyed in the Genesis flood. (I know this is probably not the kind of "conspiracy theory" you were getting at though so I will list some more modern day topics I enjoy) Soup2345- I think Chuck Missler has an upload about the Nephilim as well as the whole UFO thing. Have you watched those? Someone I know is fascinated with them and is of the opinion that they or their offpring are probably walking the earth right now, whispering and influencing governments and entertainment areas. Happy searching, but put on your Armor before you go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 14:33:30 GMT -6
A) Genesis 6:4. Who are the Nephilim? This chapter has really caused me to spend many nights reading books and articles on the subject of Giants, Nephilim, and other hard to explain phenomena of the Old Testament. It also has lead me to the conclusion of how many pastors and churches are flat out scared or under equipped to discuss this topic and why I believe the Nephilim bloodline is why the Earth was destroyed in the Genesis flood. (I know this is probably not the kind of "conspiracy theory" you were getting at though so I will list some more modern day topics I enjoy) Soup2345- I think Chuck Missler has an upload about the Nephilim as well as the whole UFO thing. Have you watched those? Someone I know is fascinated with them and is of the opinion that they or their offpring are probably walking the earth right now, whispering and influencing governments and entertainment areas. Happy searching, but put on your Armor before you go. Yes!!!! I really love chuck missler and have watched countless hours of his sermons on YouTube. Missler, Lawson, and LA Marzulli to name a few of my favorites are all touching on subjects that most pastors would never dream of touching from a pulpit. its really sad too because so many christians will be blindsided when these last days events will unfold and they are unaware and unprepared to deal with them.
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Post by mike on Jan 24, 2018 15:04:39 GMT -6
(wow, please don't think I am a nutter after reading this😀😀) You- a nutter?!?! Incredulous! the guy with a racoon dressed in a collared shirt with a vest as his profile, nah perfectly normal @soup2345
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 15:29:15 GMT -6
You- a nutter?!?! Incredulous! the guy with a racoon dressed in a collared shirt with a vest as his profile, nah perfectly normal @soup2345 I don't see no stinkin' raccoon 😀
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Post by mike on Jan 24, 2018 15:31:24 GMT -6
BWWWWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jan 24, 2018 16:14:02 GMT -6
HEY, so has anyone see the docufilm called Unackowledged? btw, I saw the youtube video that talked about the fakeness of NASA, the shuttle explosion, how the sun moves etc... I could totally be convinced that NASA is a deception. However, when it came to the guy talking about an airplane flying over a globe and it needing to adjust but it doesn't (?), I still didnt agree with his theory that the plane flies in a straight line and would leave the planet if the planet were a sphere...This is where I'd bring yardstick in and say, uh, gravity from the point of view of a sphere, has a single constant point of contact with said object as said object moves over the sphere...and then I never took Stick's math class, so I quit trying to think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 16:25:36 GMT -6
HEY, so has anyone see the docufilm called Unackowledged? btw, I saw the youtube video that talked about the fakeness of NASA, the shuttle explosion, how the sun moves etc... I could totally be convinced that NASA is a deception. However, when it came to the guy talking about an airplane flying over a globe and it needing to adjust but it doesn't (?), I still didnt agree with his theory that the plane flies in a straight line and would leave the planet if the planet were a sphere...This is where I'd bring yardstick in and say, uh, gravity from the point of view of a sphere, has a single constant point of contact with said object as said object moves over the sphere...and then I never took Stick's math class, so I quit trying to think. I saw it BBSG. What were your thoughts on it?
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Post by witness1 on Jan 24, 2018 17:29:21 GMT -6
Something strange is up with the Hawaii and Japan false missile alerts. I have no idea what it is, but JD Farag reported in his prophecy update Sunday that there were FIVE steps before the message went out. I can understand clicking the wrong box or something, but there are "Are you sure you want to do this?" steps after that... five of them according to JD. I think he got this info from that former Congressman who questioned the whole situation. And the news is saying it took so long to correct because the governor forgot his twitter password. Hmmm. I have been thinking about this some more, and I probably shouldn't have put this under "conspiracy theories". I do think there is something unusual about it, but I trust that our Defense Program had a good reason for whatever went down.
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