The Restoration of All Things


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disciple4life: Jerusalem post, The Hill, and Al Jazeera, other sources all confirm that Trump will reveal the deal of the century by Tuesday, when Netanyahu and Gantz will both be in DC. Jan 24, 2020 20:05:16 GMT -6
disciple4life: Jan 24, 2020 20:05:30 GMT -6
EnochWalked: D4L: You're probably right that the mainstream portrayal of "Palestinians" masks the actual historical reality, but it is somewhat legitimate to talk of "Palestinian Arabs", as for example used by Ze'ev Jabotinsky (whose secretary was Benzion Netanyahu). Jan 24, 2020 21:01:40 GMT -6
EnochWalked: "We cannot offer any adequate compensation to the Palestinian Arabs in return for Palestine. And therefore, there is no likelihood of any voluntary agreement being reached." written in 1923. Jan 24, 2020 21:02:10 GMT -6
disciple4life: But for context, EW, Palestine was a geographical region, and even this quote was describing regional arabs, not a race or people, and it was years before Yasar Arafat created the term to make a false victim, b/c Jordan has no claim to the land. ;-) Jan 25, 2020 15:43:19 GMT -6
EnochWalked: D4L: Right, "Palestine" was always an administrative unit of a bigger state (and it still is, to some extent). I don't know if there's a genuine sense of "Palestinian identity" in the region itself, but, for example, Kurds feel they belong to "Kurdistan". Jan 26, 2020 8:48:06 GMT -6
EnochWalked: Hmm. If the peace plan began in 2017, then it will have been 7 years in preparation by 2024. I wonder who will win the presidency that year. Jan 26, 2020 9:54:25 GMT -6
disciple4life: The only mention of 2017 in the extremely leftist, anti-semitic article was that 2017 was when Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. How could it have began in 2017, when it hasn't even been revealed. ?? Jan 26, 2020 13:17:14 GMT -6
disciple4life: My prediction is that the plan will not include anything re 3rd temple. Jews would not give land to Jordanian arabs/ Fauxlestinians unless they get a temple. So no temple, no Leprechaun/Jordanian arab state. Jan 26, 2020 13:19:50 GMT -6
EnochWalked: D4L: I apologise if you don't like the news source. I don't mean to endorse it, but it was the first time I had seen the intriguing "4 years" idea. (I haven't looked anywhere else to confirm that claim). Jan 26, 2020 17:10:47 GMT -6
EnochWalked: As for my comment that the peace plan began in 2017, there is for example this article: (Sorry if you don't like that news source either). Jan 26, 2020 17:12:17 GMT -6
yardstick: Food for thought: AC takes the 4 year plan but as part of the 'confirmation' says "I am going to make it 7, because 4 isnt enough time to get everything done" Jan 26, 2020 18:55:00 GMT -6
disciple4life: EW, My criticism is not toward you, my brother. A lot of Christians are oblivious when they read ad nauseam "Occupied territory" meaning that the Jews are the oppressors - occupying the Golan Heights and West Bank - which is land God gave the Jews for ever Jan 26, 2020 19:05:50 GMT -6
disciple4life: Many of the same naïve Christians actually have believed the lie that there's a poor oppressed people who long for a nation. People who just want a home. There is a very overt and powerful agenda at work to punish Israel. Jan 26, 2020 19:09:01 GMT -6
disciple4life: I'm not attacking/criticizing. Just making the point that even in the NYT article, nothing I read said that the plan started 4 years ago. Article was from 2017, and that Trump & Kushner had started the process of drafting it. Jan 26, 2020 19:11:14 GMT -6
disciple4life: Very very interesting report by JD Farag, re the Peace plan to be revealed Tuesday. Jan 26, 2020 19:26:33 GMT -6
EnochWalked: D4L: Thank you for your patience and clarity in explaining your position. I don't think I am disagreeing with you, just approaching the same truth from a different angle (and it's great to hear your perspective, thank you). Jan 26, 2020 20:00:32 GMT -6
EnochWalked: As for the NYT article, I guess I'm counting the "drafting" and the "preparations" together as part of the total "planning", before the plan is (supposedly) accepted by the "Palestinians". This is just a theory, but yardstick's idea is credible too. Jan 26, 2020 20:05:02 GMT -6
Servant: Any opinion? Jan 26, 2020 20:09:07 GMT -6
EnochWalked: D4L: Also, I see what you mean about God giving the land to the Jews, but He decided to deny them control of the land for 2000 years, so He has his own timetable for when to give them the land. It is still possible to be oppressive in your own land. Jan 26, 2020 20:12:36 GMT -6
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